Phonegap anyone? Or nativescript support?

idpSteve

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We build apps using phonegap. There are indeed issues, but most are manageable.

Phonegap is still a fancy shell, based around chromium browser, but a lot of the cordova plugins are cool.

I haven't accessed contacts before, here is where I'd start:

https://cordova.apache.org/docs/en/latest/reference/cordova-plugin-contacts/

Drop me a pm if you don't get anywhere.

intra

Recently 'flutter' has also been released from beta.

https://flutter.io/

Jaymer

I'd love to see a course on this at the conference

idpSteve

Jaymer wrote
I'd love to see a course on this at the conference

+1000000

customaware

intra wrote
Recently 'flutter' has also been released from beta.

https://flutter.io/

But can that be integrated with Aware in any way?

BenHayat

eagles9999 wrote
intra wrote
Recently 'flutter' has also been released from beta.

https://flutter.io/

But can that be integrated with Aware in any way?

That's the point. That means it has to be done by Awaresoft, not us, just like phonegap.

JonP

Thanks guys, this was helpful. Looks like AIM isn't the right platform for my mobile needs. I'll look into the suggestions.

JonP

Wow, Dash/Flutter looks cool!

idpSteve

Hi Jon.

Do you mean Dart/Flutter? Is Dash something different? I've looked into flutter and I think if you're doing something like that then it might be best to go with React, which has been around for a lot longer.. Just my 0.02

Perhaps give this a read:

https://hackernoon.com/react-native-vs-flutter-which-is-more-startup-friendly-c6e412d0b9ab

I still have hope for Aware Mobile. I've heard a rumor that the Aware team are updating to use CLI-8.0.0 soon and are working on other things like offline (important for mobile apps for some people) and adding more cordova plugins (might include a way to access contacts..) by default.. I'd say if possible wait it out for a short while and see what happens.. From what I've seen Flutter/React/etc are all very code based and development time isn't anything close to Aware IM.

hpl123

REALLY REALLY hoping Awaresoft focus more on mobile for Aware in upcoming versions. Mobile first is not going away and mobile/table use is increasing. I love all new changes to Aware overall (desktop, REST, security etc. etc.) so not saying not to focus on these, I want more of it all 🙂.

Jaymer

FEATURE CREEP

I would love to see more emphasis placed on mobile, rather than the rumored ERD-drawing visual capabilities stuff.
That may look great on paper, or for non-techies to adopt Aware (if Aware think thats the future for revenue), but I still have to give a +1 for just "making stuff work better"

jaymer...

aware_support

REALLY REALLY hoping Awaresoft focus more on mobile for Aware in upcoming versions

Any specifics please? So far, we have these requests recorded (and they will be addressed):

More Cordova plugins (Contacts etc)
More offline capabilities (we think about support forms in the offline mode in addition to what we have now, i.e. queries and calendars)
Update to the latest PhoneGap CLI version

Anything else??

but I still have to give a +1 for just "making stuff work better"

Any specifics, please?

intra

No Idea, i saw it come up on one of my news feeds and i had a quick look at it.

I liked that it does both IOS and Android from one codebase, however i suspect its really in the realm of what a native developer (for mobile) would use.

eagles9999 wrote
intra wrote
Recently 'flutter' has also been released from beta.

https://flutter.io/

But can that be integrated with Aware in any way?

aware_support

Regarding Cordova plugins again. It is actually very difficult for us to properly integrate all useful plugins into Aware IM - there are so many! And they are being deprecated and changed all the time. We have already provided proper integration with some core ones - Camera, Geo Location, Notifications

However, if you are familiar with Javascript you can relatively easily integrate them yourselves. For example, it should be quite straightforward to integrate the Contacts plugin. We will add a video that explains how to do it in detail. If you want a general idea on how to integrate the Contacts plugin before the video is released let me know.

BenHayat

aware_support wrote
We will add a video that explains how to do it in detail. If you want a general idea on how to integrate the Contacts plugin before the video is released let me know.

A good and rich video would be very helpful that actually shows how to do it. and where these codes should go.

hpl123

aware_support wrote

REALLY REALLY hoping Awaresoft focus more on mobile for Aware in upcoming versions

Any specifics please? So far, we have these requests recorded (and they will be addressed):

More Cordova plugins (Contacts etc)
More offline capabilities (we think about support forms in the offline mode in addition to what we have now, i.e. queries and calendars)
Update to the latest PhoneGap CLI version

Anything else??

but I still have to give a +1 for just "making stuff work better"

Any specifics, please?

Well, I am not really using the native build yet (looking into it now actually) so don´t have much concrete feedback but of the top of my head here are some of my wishes:

One of the reasons I don´t use the native build is I dare not 😮 😃 . IT FEELS like it´s unreliable but that is just my FEELING about it and might be far from the truth so a reassurance that it´s working + it´s being maintained (as Apple/Google release changes all the time which MIGHT mean a Phonegap upgrade is needed after release and not 1 year after which might cause a problem when updating an app is needed).
Fullscreen (webapp not native). The option (default) to display the mobile app in fullscreen with browser toolbars etc. hidden so when saving the mobile app URL on a homescreen, the app when launched covers the entire screen with no toolbars etc..
Tabstrip (webapp and native): https://demos.telerik.com/kendo-ui/m/index#tabstrip-profile (the icon menu at the bottom of the screen if that was unclear). Sure it´s a bit old etc. and we can probably do something like this ourselves with hacks but having this integrated and simple to use would be nice and it is still a very good mobile navigation option.
Local credential management (native) SECURELY i.e no plain text saved some where in cache on the mobile device but the ability to save credentials on the mobile device and related to enable autologin if the credentials are saved etc..
Better UI options (native) for tablet/mobile e.g splashscreen option, statusbar option (https://www.npmjs.com/package/cordova-plugin-statusbar), push notification customisation and whatever else might needed to create a first class tablet/mobile app.
Offline message proper (native). Not sure if this is implemented? If the mobile device has no internet connection, display a proper, nicely formatted error message (maybe something we can customise ourselves i.e style/text).
Screen orientation setting (native) i.e the option to select if screen orientation change is allowed or not.
Fix calendar bug (webapp and native). A thing that has been bugging me for a long time is the mobile calendar bug; when in the month view and clicking on a date, a create form pop/flash over the screen and then the day view for the selected date is displayed. Fix the pop/flash of the create form.
UUID (unique device ID) information access (native).
More local storage options (native).
A guide and/or video on how to integrate plugins ourselves (native) + do additional manual changes ourselves (already mentioned above possibly).

mrbdrm

since my use are mostly with the app. here are some things that i wish they get improved

-a better looking menu with collapse option.
-transitions between pages are not usable currently (all they do is play the same animation on every refresh)

application navbar (top or bottom)
improvement to mobile custom query. currently there is no way to know if there is no result by the query. all you see is blank white content. users don't get any feedback if there is no items.
mobile pop up need to be improved to take 100% with the width and height of the display.
all links should have the option to select the output target (system browser - in app browser - same window)

that is some of the point out the top of my head.

JonP

Do you mean Dart/Flutter?

Facepalm - yep.

Perhaps give this a read:

https://hackernoon.com/react-native-vs- ... e412d0b9ab

Dart/Flutter has come a long way in the last 6 months - plus now there is Hummingbird for web (just released into beta). But if I can get what I need from AIM/Phonegap, that's the way to go.

For example, it should be quite straightforward to integrate the Contacts plugin. We will add a video that explains how to do it in detail.

Yes please! ...and maybe a sample bsv?

P.S. Sorry about the slow response. The "notify me when a reply is posted" feature isn't working.

aware_support

Thanks for the details. Some items need a bit of clarification, please:

- Local credential management (native) SECURELY i.e no plain text saved some where in cache on the mobile device but - More local storage options (native).the ability to save credentials on the mobile device and related to enable autologin if the credentials are saved etc..

Not sure I understand this one

- Fix calendar bug (webapp and native). A thing that has been bugging me for a long time is the mobile calendar bug; when in the month view and clicking on a date, a create form pop/flash over the screen and then the day view for the selected date is displayed. Fix the pop/flash of the create form.

Can you please send testing BSV?

-a better looking menu with collapse option.

What menu are you talking about?

-transitions between pages are not usable currently (all they do is play the same animation on every refresh)

Not sure I understand. Can you send us a video of what you mean?

- application navbar (top or bottom)

Please elaborate

hpl123

aware_support wrote
Thanks for the details. Some items need a bit of clarification, please:
- Local credential management (native) SECURELY i.e no plain text saved some where in cache on the mobile device but - More local storage options (native).the ability to save credentials on the mobile device and related to enable autologin if the credentials are saved etc..
Not sure I understand this one

Reply: If you develop a native Aware mobile app today, doesn´t it mean that you have to log in / type credentials every time you open up the app on the mobile device? (I might be wrong and this already exists?). The solution I am suggesting is create a solution where the user types in credentials the first time they log on and the credentials are then stored so the user is logged on automatically following times when opening up the app. The plain text comment is to insist it is a secure solution as I know there are workarounds to this problem via storing credentials in a non encrypted, plain text file on the mobile device. PS: I am not talking about having the standard browser "Save password" feature (when logging into a page you get the question if you want to save credentials and they are then saved in the actual browser) if that already exists but a proper solution for saving credentials.
- Fix calendar bug (webapp and native). A thing that has been bugging me for a long time is the mobile calendar bug; when in the month view and clicking on a date, a create form pop/flash over the screen and then the day view for the selected date is displayed. Fix the pop/flash of the create form. 
Can you please send testing BSV?

Reply: This is general Aware bug and can be seen in any smartphone accessing the mobile calendar. To see an example open up the CRM sample app on a mobile device: Login > Company diary > Select month view > Click on date > A create form pop up momentarily (bug) after which the day view for the selected date is displayed.

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